Should we have a Discord Server?

Maybe, to improve informal communication for contributors (not Site-Pertinent communication for transparency) we could make a Discord server? I recognise the idea may not be appropriate, but I wanted to entertain the idea a bit, to know your thoughts about it.

That being said, I’d argue this might be beneficial on the community part by bringing us together with other (unrelated) topics.

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I’d join if one was created.

where is the line drawn here?

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I’d say we shouldn’t allow stuff like ‘Site Feedback, Service Requests, Case Discussion…’
The types of communications that are here for anyone to check our working process. Instead, more for stuff like informal communication, expressing our opinions about different Services, maybe coding discussions…

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I’d want one as well, easy for off topic stuff or realtime communication. Could create one if @Peepo or @michielbdejong agree with this idea.

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@Peepo @Arlo @michielbdejong If you agree, I already have a template server done for it. Still managing roles and structure, but should work properly by now. :cowboy_hat_face: :cowboy_hat_face: :cowboy_hat_face:

Link: https://discord.gg/A3tUsSR

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I love Discord but I’m a little hesitant to have a server, just because idk what exactly it would be used for. We can try it out though and see if we like it!

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I haven’t started contributing, so pay whatever amount of attention to me you feel like.

Discord is proprietary, which keeps some people (like me) away. I guess many users (and potential contributors) of tos;dr, use it to avoid the most non-free sites, I think the signal would be bad.

A first step would be to assign a class to them, as it is, it just has a number of bullet points listed (that mostly would contribute to a bad score).

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@grove I get where you’re coming from, and agree with your POV. I’d argue that it shouldn’t be necessarily a deterrent as it’s a useful tool, and we as users could take measures to lessen the bad features, or limit our uses of said service.
Ofc, it’s mainly an experimental thing atm (kind of an "entertain the idea" thing), and users should never feel compelled to use it as it’s not an enforcement upon anyone.

In the end, it’s a matter of choice, and how a user should approach it.

I personally outweigh the good with the bad in a ‘usefulness’ stand, and also believe that we ought to create a more conscious culture in the long run that will allow us to have a greater say on how ToS are enforced to the user.

What do you think?

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I think that anything besides rejection of proprietary protocols cause them to grow.

And nothing I’ve read about discord makes me want to investigate it further.

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Hi!

To “eat our own dog food”, Discord does not seem to have stellar terms of service. Quite the contrary, actually.

I would suggest we use element.io. Not only it is fully Free-and-Open-Source-Software, its is also fully distributed using the Matrix open protocol. Every matrix client has their own server, but I’ve read the terms of service of the one at element.io, the server operated by New Vector, Ltd., and it does seem quite reasonable.

Element has a lot of the same features as Discord: you can have multiple channels on a workspace, you can make audio and video calls. It also does have some nice features that Discord doesn’t, such as end-to-end cryptography.

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Wow! Thanks for the suggestion. Will look into its features and practices right away!
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P.S.: It’s End-to-End Encryption(?) xD

Update (07:10 UTC-05:00): @KnossosDomovoi So it’s been created (free version 'cause there’s no funding for that atm, but not a problem really), but obviously still not finished.

https://matrix.to/#/+tosdr:matrix.org

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